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GEN3 Powertrain Controller
Ignition Setup Tutorial
For Use with the GEN3 Pro SEFI Powertrain Systems
February 2009 – Rev 1.1
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Summary of Contents

Page 1 - Ignition Setup Tutorial

GEN3 Powertrain Controller Ignition Setup Tutorial For Use with the GEN3 Pro SEFI Powertrain Systems February 2009 – Rev 1.1

Page 2 - Pullup_Resistor_Installation

Repositioning the Magnet You may have to reposition the magnet in the magnet carrier, if the rotor phase is unacceptable for the desired timing at p

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Type 5 - All-in-One, Crank and Cam Sync Distributor Currently MSD makes two all-in-one cam and crank (signal) distributors (see below). MSD a

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11The MSD All-In-One Distributor 2 wire connector (wires from the blue pole piece) must be changed to the 2 way black male Metripack connector

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12Type 6 - Using GM’s Oil Pump/Cam Sync Drive (P/N 1104068) Used in Conjunction with BigStuff3’s 24 tooth Wheel. For standalone Coil-on-Plug (

Page 6 - Reluctor tab

The table below shows the position the BigStuff3 Cam wires need to occupy in the new connector housing (positions A, B & C). The new connector h

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Next, install the terminal pins into the new connector housing per the table above. Lastly, snap the secondary lock back onto the back of the new co

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15Find GM Cam Sync Falling Edge To find the Cam Falling Edge a voltmeter and a jumper wire are required.. A crankshaft degree wheel is also

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16Type 7 – MSD Mag44 (Magneto) Quick Setup Guide • Find TDC, cylinder number one (1), compression stroke. See Find_TDC on page 20. • Roll th

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17as the crank signal. To confirm this, type the letters B-A-L simultaneously see B_A_L on page 30. Make sure the PC is communicating with th

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• Rotate the crankshaft back to 30o BTDC position and the voltmeter attached to the E3 and J2 terminals, the voltmeter should read 12 Volts (the S

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1The installation and set-up of the following ignition configurations will be explained in this tutorial. For additional information on ignition sy

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• The UEGOR reading in the “Dash” must read 28. See Dash_Window on page 29. o Note: There is a cam sync issue if the UEGOR reading is any number

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20other than this number, then there is a synchronization problem between the cam and crank. The cam sensor may need to be moved to correct th

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21Using the Degreed Dampener or a Dampener with Timing Tape on it, instead of a degree wheel Make sure that the pointer is solidly mounted so

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In order to avoid this problem BigStuff3 recommends using a system that has four magnets (for a V8) embedded in the trigger wheel. As the magnets pa

Page 17 - Type 7 – MSD Mag44 (Magneto)

Rotor Phasing Rotor phasing is important for regular OE ignition systems, but it is vital for high energy ignition systems where the spark has to jum

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24For example, with the Crank Reference set to 50o BTDC, the rotor needs to be retarded by 30o (crankshaft degrees) to achieve good rotor phase

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Start by removing the cam gear at the bottom of the distributor shaft by removing the roll pin with a 1/8” punch. Pull the distributor shaft out of

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26 For non-COP engines: If using a 4-magnet (pole) crank wheel the value inputted into this cell must be 4. Static Test Timing Window “Cr

Page 21 - “Specific Details”

Cam/Crank Advance (CamCrkAdv). Will be available for COP applications in March 09. Add to the “Dash”, the variable called CamCrkAdv (see below). Th

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The cam signal occurs 11o before the crank signal The crank signal occurs 11o after the cam signal Setting the Crank Reference for Coil-0n-Plug Engi

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2Type 1 - Stand-alone Distributor (no cam sync signal or crank trigger used) Stand Alone Distributor Overview A stand-alone IPU distributor can be

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Use a timing light to confirm that the value inputted into the “Crank Reference” (in the COP window, not the Crank Trigger window) exactly matches th

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Static Test Timing Window Dynamically Checking Rotor Phase To check rotor phasing dynamically, the distributor cap will need to be modified so that

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With COP engines using HED cam and crank sensors, like the GM LSx engines, the synchronization status is provided immediately during cranking, so the

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How to Connect the BS3 Two (2) Wire Magnetic Sensor to the BS3 LS1 Main Wire Harness The LS1 main wire harness was designed to interface with the st

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33GEN3 ECU - Ignition Settings for GM Cam Sync Drive When using the GM Cam Sync drive and a BigStuff3 24 tooth wheel, the Factory or Dealer Ig

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Locking Out the Centrifugal Advance 1. Remove the advance components including the springs, weights, and the advance stop bushing from the advance as

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4Type 2 - Modified distributor (to serve as the cam sync) to be used with a crank trigger setup The cam sync drive provides a signal (every 36

Page 31 - Static Test

value in the Crank Trigger window (in the Operating Configuration table), up or down, until the “Dash” value and the crank value are the same. See S

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6Removing Reluctors Use a permanent black marker and clearly identify (mark) the reluctor that is lined up or in-phase with the sensor pole pi

Page 33 - It must be cut, taped and

7• Install the distributor then “bump” the starter until it engages the oil pump drive while applying a light downward pressure. Once the oil

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MSD Cam Sync Drive Shown below is MSD’s cam sync distributor, part number 2340. Inductive pick-up (sensor) Installing the Cam Sync Di

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